Right around that -- -- -- five point seven again with the former raiders Super Bowl champ George jacketed and David Harmon and we're just getting into. At the end the last segment did Jason Tarver and it's overly emotional effects in a positive -- on this team. The before the -- not once but twice. In Sunday's game per call he didn't like it call that was eventually. Overturned and did David -- we're just talking about the idea that you know what is it like to play for guy like that have you played for a coach that maybe. Wears his emotion on his sleeper in this case. On his hand and what kind of effect that can have on a player -- we. Well joy and George knows this or Georgia's old defensive coordinator Don should have done done you sale of the old grandpa fancy kind of pull up under his -- and signature. And then he -- trader had a backwards and you know -- downward kind of Jason anxious and officials -- is a crazy guy to. And you know I mean those those are guys that the players just love to play. And -- the decision to use that political flight that view well -- countries like position. We're Igawa and our government opened -- You've wondered about the big news you're already -- -- good -- And you like what that would mean you'd like ago this law luggage bottles and look for -- decency and when you have that it makes guys display -- what they're -- give that extra effort. They may not you know just so you've got a guy does not end up being in this country and -- Think happened in order value it brings energy and not let up or war. Forties player especially. That knew because she starters they've bought into him and their responded in true. The -- -- ever fly the bird. Probably won't. Not accurate to every game almost no -- flatter like. -- blue moon. Moon -- to. It was a lot of equipment for much -- -- and it looked great lap back for the Baltimore colts and it. So if -- a top football where you brought that I mean. Been out here over through is culture in short -- and Robert Wood and welcome employers. Who who is the toughest who is the hardest guy and the officials. That that that you ever. Later or spend time -- Part of the doubt on an associate. Congress step on the red. I mean from Beirut here. And you -- chances debris. -- good guy good coach. Police say two officials. Whoa weirder through Europe and the show -- here you stuffy didn't say on television and you didn't shouldn't change -- A -- but you know. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- On this show. Did -- ever have a -- I mean do you think it did talk about all the time and based card to store manager can really work officials. -- players and in coaches can you have that same effect in football on officials. Padraig I mean you know -- me -- -- caught you're getting is here. You're here you -- and then let him know it may come off you know people like share. It's Hugo call all -- ones that call -- -- They think about that could make you look -- they're announcing that happens several. John John whose relentless. Relentless. It is yours. No court and he's got no language here why we're we're. Unbelievable. All right around Daimler about a five said the other former raiders -- jackets and and there -- so we argue we we talk a little we touched on a little bit guys but -- taller version. Harvard's enthusiasm. And Charles Woodson is a fact in the secondary a little bit. But this defensive line. Has 21 sacks. By fourteen players last year last year they 125 sacks for a whole season by eleven players. I had so much better David. And what I think. Think Reggie McKenzie executive of the year torture and Jason -- -- Tarver Jason Tarver maybe defense of coach of the year. And -- I think you're you're looking at Jason Tarver. Has really has really stepped up his game. So and but you look at Reggie I think these nine new guys that he brought in. I think get it when you look at Nick Roach who backed up. Urlacher and in Chicago for six years. Are you kidding me I think Reggie upgraded there. These these these nine players that came in you got the upgrade on that defensive side. Nick Roach has really as far as you know it is a leader and a defensive side and I tell you what these guys have just. Ban that they have really come together and her. There and it didn't respond to Atlanta I'm here really surprised me how -- actually bury your responder. True walk. -- cholera and how quickly they have a gesture to a job. I mean you just don't see guys who haven't played together. And who haven't been around -- shuttle or -- well. What Accenture remark and I mean they're like yeah they are playing lights -- football. And this because that -- there have been here to border entered Tolliver. Special and brought imperial. Wolf a little religious -- it will get better and better. I think you you have got to feel good. About this -- you know you -- -- in Kansas City at halftime the score was 727. We did shut -- Kansas City crowd up. And that they weren't -- you talk about feeling good. And then that -- offensive line with three starters out there was no way you could hold that back in them and then once once did the hole in the dike. You know it just didn't hit the flood gates open that embedded advantages you know everything we will forward in Alabama. -- Terrell so you know when when you look at this team. You there you have got to be excited about this this defense you've got to be excited about this quarterback. You got to be excited about the south of sublime when they get healthy no I mean there is a lot to be excited about. This -- well and they had a a comfortable lead it well relatively speaking of the NFL but when he went three and in the second half against the Steelers. I I and about 11 down at 35 yards of total up right so so the question is. Where they too conservative or were they Smart. The president went to mr. Davidson's philosophy. Just win baby. And keep big game and ensure but didn't manage they didn't do you know we saw what the critics that say about the second half. You know when you're quietly. Why is he minister -- that. Certainly you won't protect you want this title which long projected. And you Atlanta's big gain proper note turn almost make the other -- and use the clock trying to put points on the board. Make them. Make them -- involved court you have more up security dramatic blatantly trying to grow and keep them all -- not think they've managed to do it well. Parent I don't buy it -- well rendered that shouldn't have to do enough to perk up where Anderson stand there. Well I like what else. But doesn't say just to get 11 down 35 yards are you kidding me. Nobody I mean that's when you talk yeah. Stupid would actually -- bit better. Well showed how well they troops Pittsburgh also. Absolutely I mean until a year for that that defense to hang out and shut down shut down. Pittsburgh's offense I -- that is incredible. And me. You weren't -- today day. -- they handled that correctly guy I would look. They they called when he plays in the second half eight of them pass plays that to me that's not that's that's not told I mean given the situation -- I I think on paper that balance is fine. -- opt out. You know -- not that -- look at it and -- -- -- Bill Bennett. And landed in the game. And ended it played. Big play not to lose and I have well. Absolutely right about that you're always Wear underwear and opinion try to give it won't can look at temple or certain future option to control the game. But that doesn't happen but there's still walk. And that's the thing is about this about the W column. You're not in -- at how there. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well -- I wanna finish by taking a look ahead the Eagles this week there there up temple. Warp speed offense hasn't always been so -- speed they're not gonna have Mike Vick. David do what you see in the matchup with Philly and -- for the raiders this weekend. We'll know Mike -- can't think of quarterback young guy that I think you can control his defense saying I can't wait to see Jason Tarver. In the defense to plan that he can't tell where. I can't wait to see this offense and what -- day with the plan they come out you know. -- with our quarterback so. No I think this is going to be. And this is four per raider fans and for all of us that does that wanna see this team improved one SC quarterback improve. -- in the defense just I mean there's a lot to look forward to. On the power. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- about republic so look a little bit social or. Cover receivers make them pay for mistakes and put points on border change you get more brutal and recently posted to in a row. Then recycle so rural incomes should. Should just before we go just so we're clear. David you still like Terrelle Pryor. I wouldn't and you can. Go don't pay or. The legend George David on till they enjoy the week -- -- -- a -- game puppy Halloween everybody be -- It's the same probably happy hello -- and definitely. B eight I guy's documents Wednesday you're. Eight -- guys great cherica always enjoy. I don't know it's not doctors at George -- had a good me George. Q now continental. But George and I -- -- our. Commitment.