Pensions acted the -- busy day yesterday nice not to join us former GM of the reds and -- MLB on XM serious host. Jim Bowden Jim what's to like what's not to like about Billy's busy day yesterday sir. Well I think he did another great job like he's done is so current Oakland terms of being able to get. Undervalued players and be able to get them you know in the case of James Johnson here was a short term solution for the closer -- Without long term commitment on the books to not have to worry about given grant ball pork. A multi year contract that would that that's a risk these kind of dollars I mean anytime you're urging him. And you can get -- -- -- -- got by the way it's 801 games the last two years. And you only have to worry about one year on guaranteed arbitration eligible player. I mean that that is definitely the way to do it if you're -- -- -- you know from me I totally understand the move. And white. He may have and looked the only reason they were able to get Johnson. It didn't do caddie is under financial restraints former owner Peter Angelos he's trying to put the team together and he can't pull it. The way he'd be edited ten million dollars in the ninth inning based on the team but he at right now at the end allocate that money in different ways in the field I can get a closer. For lesser money to get the same job done so understand -- and it's coming from so -- -- -- and you know we get player back in weeks who as you know. At the very passes about cup's second baseman. So Jim since winter teams looking to dump salary -- come to the days though what that something doesn't seem. Right in the world with all of us. Yeah that would call that salary dump about I don't think it's the salary -- you know Dolly dumped the meat is when you've just got completely clear payroll means. To me it's more managing your -- budget within your roster. And spending the money in another way is the way it's gonna help your team win -- You know I think -- day they felt that the closing role was needed and they didn't need that money to spend at the top of their rotation. Then I don't think they get rid of jobs and they were happy with -- -- had a blip in the -- season but he finished strong and they were happy with and so I don't think they -- the president -- I think they want to re allocate the dollars because of the financial exposure -- voting got on the books and it was simple. In fact I think Jim Craig if I'm wrong I'm pretty sure Duquette said they were gonna tender him a contract offer so. You obviously got overruled Dianne Solis on some level. Yeah I mean pet owners are -- by -- rules thirteen and they don't and the GM is really just the agent for the owner. Some GMs have more power like Billy -- and others do but you know look I understood this move I think all of us saw it coming they have been long discussions. With the Dodgers -- the Dodgers are trying to trade. For Johnson that they wanted. Baltimore to pick up some of the money. That they want to do that. Jim -- and a lot of people around here are looking at Jim Johnson. And seeing it and frankly they're focused on the -- blown say it's. But I Lampard for people who didn't see him pitch regularly what's your read on what kind of a close he is what's today's fans expect when he walks out there. Well educated been consistent the last three years and that is here is going to be on the victory. -- mean it's very similar the ground ball four in the way I view I mean things similar ER ED we doesn't have the personality is certainly Orioles fans. Are gonna -- you know down much tree continue to -- for him. But you've got -- -- that you know -- Dominic go back and look at each year and -- kind of piece it together you know the first month of the season. Only -- -- parent's -- in African give up a lot of media obsolete dominate. Did he did go to a rough patch at one point during the season in particular it was August where he had three outings in a row we gave up around it but he can't act. And everybody that this is. His seat still going to be the closer but then remember the month of September. In that you look at all out into the -- September. Only one Indy actually give up an arm around the entire month of September so utilities. Same type that you're getting the ball -- he he's going to be able quote yet believe night. He's gonna close the game the only concern that we had from last year you know -- was hit speaking about the you know more -- -- -- page that's not normal for him. Again from my understanding which is kind of like that midseason slump in August that affected the numbers were meant to help. With Scott Kazmir coming in these may have extra pitching what's the market for Brett Anderson out there. You know it's interesting I heard Brady Anderson connected with Cleveland a lot you know I think Billy has some reservations about health -- going forward. Other GM that don't know me as well kind of look at him go -- out you know that is when -- -- Definitely potential proper rotation type of starter he's worked Campbell. So I think there will be a market for Brad and I think that if you Oakland if you trade it. Do you worry that these actions stay healthy I think it's as simple as that because I think he's too good and left handed to deal. But I you know I wouldn't be surprised after the -- -- signing if if they don't -- -- it would make sense they would probably well. Jim -- nice not to join us on 957 game in Jim a lot of a's fans having a hard time swallowing 22000002 years for Kazmir do we is stances have to realize that. Maybe Josh Johnson notwithstanding it's starting pitcher discussed a lot more than than we as fans think they should these days. Yeah I think that's part of it I mean that the interest in part is a lot of starters we got eight million. You know -- target steady in the year with Kansas City and I thought they were similar although I will tell you before. The markets start but targets would get three years and then 329 at thirty million he gets four years to. So although -- eight million a year he capped a fourteen year which probably doesn't get is probably upset there. Tom but I was surprised it was a little bit high doses actually sprite get the second year. But I think Billy beans about leaders were really comfortable watching him pitch but he was completely back and healthy. And they had no reservations he can do with the next two years and the other issue was. They just felt like they could get co owned you know they didn't wanna go 1415 million dollars -- couple years on him. They they just couldn't afford it so they figured hey we'll take out smear effort to elevenths. Instead of waiting on call because -- prices are gonna come down and then then of course yet apart if they did Jim Johnson pretend. I don't have to worry about you know -- ball sport so you know at the end of the day when you're an Oakland sometimes you gotta sometime maybe take a lesser player. And take -- short term would pay a little bit more because that's better for the overall financial health of your franchise. What's the likelihood Cologne stays in the division and returns to Anaheim. Think it's possible -- -- and a lot of conversations that -- clones agent. And they also as a Bronson Oreo and other so -- -- I think that the landing spot I would be surprised if the Yankees meter run at Cologne. And brought him. Him back there Brian Cashman. Has been very vocal and that he needs to get forty innings -- in -- is playing TPC. I think -- as planned -- for them. And -- his plan B until that falls apart. Probably -- in anybody else but I think -- -- any spot from as well. Former GM Jim Bowden. Now with that ESPN analyst and our guests are on the rise guys Jim in looking at the a's roster now with these news emanating yet ambled to the surplus -- starting pitching. Where they need to go what's the next move. What you don't. My own personal opinion is different than their opinion because I'd like to see him go what caliber shortstop coming in -- seemed Larry put its second base. And leave them there because that Larry's best position. And I'm a big fan of getting rain so. I would like to see them try to make a deal for. From Cleveland like -- think in the that was the Brady Anderson ankle. The Billy that he would do Anderson deal hopefully you know because they've got as to book Cabrera and it got in or coming. So -- would be expendable but I would think Napoleon or glorious type of deal get -- -- what shortstop that you wait for the kids become. Please don't wanna rush to -- -- going to be superstar. But but until he's ready. Indeed have a stop gap I think between now and then. You can win with pitching and defense in depth that's so they've done the last couple years and I just think a gold glove level. Range shortstop and Larry at second base really enhances. The chances of their continued. When he of the division. He's the former GM of the reds in the -- you can hear him on MLB and ex -- serious Timbaland thank you Jim so much we appreciate what talkies and -- and.