To go on those talks -- and the market stuff and all that you that works for him. Scott Miller allow long time a baseball reporter -- kind of the joints or 957 game at Scott Miller BBL on Twitter and it's been that eventful. Last a couple of days day and a half for the days. So let's start there Scott Kazmir two years point two million dollars. Jim Johnson trade McGregor -- today. And and Craig Gentry for for a guy like a lot Michael choice so when you look at DA's today and as you know you obviously follow them this year in -- West Coast what. Would you take away from what Billy -- did the last couple of days. -- in all it's billing himself says. Yup they don't straddle that if they say they can win. They're all in and they've made moves designed that took it to do that and if they think they can't win. Then. They make moves in that direction we've seen that the past would have -- so that the free agency a local -- access to Tim -- and Mark Wahlberg and those guys but you know clearly that it Billick thinks you're out with good reason. In the last two years have been terrific. And they're there window awareness now and nutty. With Cincinnati juggling the -- payroll I -- -- grant. Offer -- and Bartolo -- goes where. You know he's he's naked pro like help proactively years that Kashmir interest -- nearly eleven million bucks a year for guys that. Really just kind of had a bounce back season for Cleveland last year after most people who written off. But I'll look at where things that your sting. The other gentry plays. You know that the defense side of things since the all. -- -- chipped out and -- graders I think are too strong pick ups. I think there. Is. It looks to -- The Phillies looking at depth still and you know that tactically aware and anymore today because as we all know that complete game. It is go on the way around source Rex and you know so many games now are decided the ball. Well and you might need. Aaron you're the guy who I should I should note this. Came on the DA's pregame dugout show before game two. Last year you with -- in the Booth and -- said Sonny gray you that you compared Sonny gray where you thought he might do to what Matt Moore did for the rays. Which was fantastic a couple of years prior. And and and so but this is a guy who we talked so much about you know innings limits and pitch counts -- threatening at the end of the year. And all of a sudden you look at his bullpen with with McGregor and I don't know that I help you Jim Johnson is not an upgrade on Graham bell for. But Johnson and Gregor soon. Gives this team I think a stronger bullpen and they had last year when it was one of their strength I think. Yeah I've got I agree with Q and by the way I appreciate that thank you for -- I remember that. Yeah you're also right I'm not -- predictions especially the awful prediction we ought to do coming out of spring training you know who's to win what division with the MVP he's going to be and that's just an exercise in futility and not yet every -- -- Alex -- out of blind squirrel finds an acorn and but anyway yeah I -- remembers spending their time in the Booth with you before game two and I yeah I do remember that this cycling map. More comparison that and you're right I mean that that other strange. With with younger are younger rotation as -- have. Right out it's not like they've they've got. Two or three Roy Halladay is you know old retired guy like Talladega this crime who you know Oreo or even Adam Wainwright who you'd know you just -- about for 230 innings pitched -- of the year and you know. I probably would hurt so much and I told about the Foster that actual running up pitch count that was one of the fascinating -- ransacked hikers ALC apps you know we all -- Tigers'. Rotation. Was killer. We knew it was quarter for every. Red Sox their mission was to drive that tigers starter out of game by the fifth inning or whatever was then the other succeed at. Not a win that is the title and -- we know. The Red Sox are the only in the Yankees play that way and Mort Mort in today's game if you're so much about pitch count all. Strong loaded offense like the Red Sox and yankees that says. Their mission each night -- this summer is to ride the policy pitch counts. Does the policy starters pitch count we hear so much about that. And conversely is it which I'm not young starters and actually great. Are going to be on on. Let me know your package it's 250 an extra -- that's one -- with -- you do. -- a year now that's 40 look at -- You compile the innings on accurately. It's talkies you know -- -- luggage across the desert. Yet. Without them you know there's going to be. The -- going to be important and in in I agree -- I think. Granderson Johnson. You all had that all and I really liked that strategy. Are you mentioned already the eleven million dollars a year over two years for Scott Kazmir Scott Miller joining us Scott Miller BVL longtime baseball writer reporter. On Twitter. You you mention we mention that deal but -- that -- and you know that it's nearly what Tim Hudson got from the giants. Well what what what would you just look at the market you look at that money what is what do you think the neighborhood the Cologne and -- these guys are look at four. Ultimately is because it by the way. But Jim Johnson's gonna make over ten million dollars arbitration my this year. Yeah that's -- thing and so. You know. Where -- dollars. Wind up -- it is at this point is anybody's. It. Yes and in what we do know essential part relievers started yet. Two years ago. You know a lot and so all. -- the tigers and looks like her post as saying Joseph made from. You know I have seen figures yet on that but as you said you're -- -- -- 119 dollars a year I'll. You know you can you can guess. Of these other players like Nate -- I mean you know you can probably target fifteen million a year. Do you think they'll be fifteen for Bartolo out there. Cheers it's such demand. Home. He's an interesting case I I would be surprised. -- at this point I don't think you can underestimate. What. Money starting pitchers -- command I think that's why the twins jumped sorely. -- -- You know on on -- the last girl. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't Cologne give fifteen billion but. I mean catchers get eleven. Cologne has got to get more than that so you probably thought that I think the thirteen to fifteen million range. While and so that brings us to a guy who hasn't pitched alive. But seems to have some upside and isn't very expensive at least this year and that's. Spreading Anderson whose name has been out their repeatedly. Which makes me think Billy's not gonna trade in my outlook while the reticence may be out there for a week if they're actually in a move doesn't seem like they're a mall but. Anything granderson is viewed around baseball right now is that as a potential trade piece. Yeah -- -- -- -- -- an -- what you can you know that's the other thing guy who's news. News. If you can get a pitcher like him in the trade it reduced Cochran that if -- -- in eleven -- election year in -- it's like thirteen -- fifteen million or somewhere in that range. I -- a free -- money is just crazy it is -- it's -- supply and demand -- just -- starting pitcher will. We know that so that's why. The you know the trade market it because flatly look at look at a year ago when the royals. Acquired. Jake Shields. In in and wait Davis campus they have they gave up what Myers. You know it seems her Arctic willing to give up. Prospect like that if they can get. Starting pitching that's controllable. In return and -- from that perspective I think yeah I elaborate -- use it to -- right you know Filipinos so smooth. And you're right if you and if predators whose names that -- out there for a week it is hard to imagine. This village and pull the trigger on him but you know I think that this is going to be a classic case. Or all of the day's -- floating in his name ends in deal the -- his name out there. The more. You figure may -- more Phillies follow rating from other teams in May be if they get good -- it will buyers -- like but they got hurt for shields last year but if they give some. Pretty good prospects yeah I think you know -- properties and -- at some external preparing. Or is that that then what will listen but let's at least gauge what Brothers at war. Are you we started you mentioned. The the shots in the dark predictions that this from thank you have to make before the year. -- so with that said that the Prince Fielder deal Rangers acquired him obviously you mentioned Craig Gentry the ace and Michael choice. That way which has which raise a lot of eyebrows around here charm. Has the west changed at all in in just the way you perceive it since the season ended the American pointless. Not me I still like Oakland's young pitching. You know I think. I like all I I like a Prince Fielder trade for Texas a -- -- -- to me was -- an interesting case study because. I liked. Detroit trading him. Yet I like Texas -- me you know epics that 682. Years in Detroit and you didn't hit. As well as the tigers hope to Comerica Park clearly is I don't think. After they were eliminated by -- Boston. -- -- Made it look like either he didn't care you know is defense mechanism was 88 what are like what we wanted to go home and worry about this Perot. I got kids in my family Almonte on the prospect out of my kids and -- we all know eight. Prioritizing things family should be number one but when you're paying guys 200 plus million dollars. You'd like to see a little more passion you'd like to see what more fire as I understand where we're up in arms over -- -- reaction not to mention he has been hit -- -- season premieres -- well I got to the classic case where. Also that contract is gonna the last couple years is that this is not going to be good I had a classic cases I take great chance of audience and surprisingly. And they took it and actually kudos to them but the the flow chart now I like. Texas gambling because I've -- it's and that ballpark a lot more. Anything at Comerica Park -- he's got to change C. This is he'll do some real damage. And from that perspective Texas. After losing Josh Hamilton a year ago. You know their offense -- and of course Nelson Cruz gets props for that city -- specialized you know they were depleted offensively last year. I think prince is gonna help Texas quite a bit and and you know from that perspective for me. What we've seen so far this winter -- movements. I think is the Rangers in the eighties are still the power in the apparently last sole problem let's see what happens -- the winner. Not at Scott Miller BVL on a Twitter Scott Miller Scott good to catch up -- you look forward to your next Sonny gray prediction before the season. How. -- spot by the bass -- you guys appreciate that.